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Post by Sam on Aug 23, 2008 5:10:43 GMT -5
Welcome to a whole new avenue.
Let's take this discussion here so I can have my blog all to myself.
KTHXBAI.
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Post by SKOT on Aug 23, 2008 19:59:29 GMT -5
You ask if the choice of "lesbianism" is vain and narcissistic........and then go on to state that women are beautiful.
Thus answering the first question...........firmly in affirmative.
Yes , women are beautiful....I know that women are beautiful , every man knows that women are beautiful !
Oh , how we love all your beauty.......and , oh , how we can suffer at the hands of your beauty !
You are beautiful Sam , and now , sadly , like so many other women you are getting into the vain and narcissistic choice "lesbianism"........an inverted "lifestyle" which revolves entirely around you and other women , and how beautiful you are.
You can only see how beautiful you are.
However , that leaves out men , and the character and integrity of men ,
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Post by SKOT on Aug 23, 2008 20:08:27 GMT -5
, the heart and soul of men , the strength , virtue , poetry , creativity , passion and dynamism of men.
You are leaving out the , essential , harmony which is meant for man and woman. The soulful union which is meant for man and woman........and which is truly beautiful.
Yes , you are all beautiful.............how many poems and sculptures and stories and songs attest to your beauty !
Yet , when you become so vain , so arrogant , so consumed by your own ego , as to only be able to see your own beauty , and to then so callously reject and dismiss men........that becomes an 'ugliness'......an ugliness inside , an inner corruption.
Your beauty is meant to be mirrored in the loving eyes of your man , in the loving heart of your man , in the passion of your man for you.........and the beauty of your union is meant to reach it's full flowering in your relationship , in marriage , and in your children.
Yes , you are all beautiful......that is no excuse for cruelly indulging in an irresponsible , self absorbed ""lifestyle"".
That is vanity , that is narcissism.......that is ugly.
Sincerely,
SKOT
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Post by beefball on Aug 24, 2008 8:06:01 GMT -5
tmd. leech.
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Post by Sam on Aug 24, 2008 8:37:32 GMT -5
Skot, "Women are beautiful" was meant to be sarcastic and mocking.
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Post by Skot on Aug 24, 2008 16:19:25 GMT -5
Why ?
How about stopping with the sarcasm and the mockery ?
Here is a much better idea.........how about if everyone cuts out the sarcasm , the mockery , the irony and the vagueness .......that all makes this such an awfully jaded , weak , directionless, time to be alive !!
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Post by Sam on Aug 25, 2008 8:12:48 GMT -5
Well I cannot "stop" with the sarcasm and mockery because my friends and I love injecting sarcasm and mockery into our speeches. Apparently you do not know me at all and therefore cannot comprehend me. I forgive you for that.
Before my rebuttal, might I ask what it is that makes you so sure I am completely blind to the beauty of men? Don't make callous assumptions based loosely on your own definition of "lesbianism". I very well see the beauty of men and am not afraid to admit that I have dated and been involved with men (and women) in the past. My dating a woman now does not simply equate to myself being completely self-absorbed in all the wonderful things like breasts and vaginas. I am definitely still aware of the many penises around and I still admire men that are beautiful.
I do not "callously reject" men. To put it bluntly, I've "been there, done that and would not prefer it". I do not blame you if you were trying to accuse me of "turning" homosexual just because you think i WANT to. It's not because I want to, it's because I am uncomfortable in the hands of a man and would really much rather not put myself through such discomfort. Do not simply presume that my friends and I are completely against the idea of being involved with the opposite sex just because we identify as "homosexual"! Most of us probably have been involved with the opposite sex, and we know that it was awkward and we want to ease ourselves by rectifying the problem: the gender of our partners.
Skot, I understand that you are very attracted to women, it's something that your penis and perhaps your upbringing puts you through. I do not force you to be accepting of homosexuality, but merely respect us because we are human. A white student might feel very uncomfortable having a black student sitting beside him, but I doubt he would say no if the black student were to ask to borrow his eraser.
At the same time, ponder about this; why would we put ourselves in such an uncomfortable situation when we absolutely HAVE to love penises if were women when we can always make ourselves comfortable with just doing what we really want? If you were to be unable to tolerate spicy food, would you add extra chilli sauce to your meal to put yourself through agony?
One last point, why are you only claiming that homosexuals are narcissist, egotistical and vain? Are you not, Skot, a least bit vain? The fact that you think that "my beauty is only meant to be mirrored in the loving eyes of my man , in the loving heart of my man , in the passion of my man for me?" If I were indeed as beautiful as you manifest me to be why should only men be allowed to have loving eyes, loving heart and passion for me? Is that not being egotistical and putting men above all?
Yours truly, Sam.
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Post by den on Aug 25, 2008 9:55:39 GMT -5
So I haven't been bothered to really post here, since I'm lazy to create an account and all that.
Because I actually posted here, you can guess how bored I am.
Actually, what Sam said is right. You don't have any rights to decide that homosexuality is a vain, arrogant, selfish choice. You're giving others the mentality that women are made for men, and probably vice versa. You forcing that decision on us. Everyone has their own choices and decisions to make. Like what I said many times before, who are you to rampage on our blogs and try to explain how bad homosexuality is and how we should revert back to being straight. Do you really think you can change us? That itself is a vain mindset.
Sam, I already confirmed that he can't even sense a bit of sarcasm. So there's really not much point going around corners. Just make our points as direct and simple as can be. I really couldn't be bothered anyway to really come up with fancy, complicated words to decorate his arguments, like what he does.
Skot, if you think that this 'vain, arrogant aspect of homosexuality' is 'ugly', you can turn tail and leave anytime. I'm so sure you wouldn't want to associate yourself with 'ugly people'. That being said, I could probably think of a hundred ways on how to describe you, and trust me, I'm not going to show mercy.
All in all, you won't have any success in what you're going to do, not here at least. So I suggest that you use your time for stuff that's more useful than trying to convert homosexuals.
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Post by Skot on Aug 30, 2008 23:46:47 GMT -5
What you wrote , Sam , is a staggering example of the vanity and conceit which is going on here !
What you wrote is a mean spirited , cold hearted example of the very narcisissm , vanity and egotism being discussed here !
An almost wilful excercise in ignorance.
And , while trying to deny being beautiful , while trying to beat around the bush about how vain this new "lifestyle" is....you posta picture of your , very , gorgeous self.
That , coupled with the obtusely self involved comments you have made , adds up to an awful illustration of what is so wrong now !
You go on about sarcasm . . . . . .I have said before , that if need be I could out-sarcasm you around the tree all day long , I could sarcasm you into the ground. But , I don't like it though , I don't like sarcasm , and sarcasm does not add up to any kind of sound alternative to actual , real converstion , like you and all your 'freinds' think it does. Sarcasm often hides a sensitive , and wounded , soul......but is too often used as a front by those too weak , and superficial , to express anything deep.
Please , do not get into my not being able to "comprehend" you. You are not that great a mystery. And this new "lifestyle" of yours does not transform you into a superior lifeform , far beyond the "comprehension" of mere mortal men.
No , you are beautiful , you are spoiled , you are conceited.......nothing needed to be 'comprehended' about any of that , Sam.
You say you still see the beauty of men ? Yes.....But ! You are talking about the "beautiful" men who have to look like a "girl" now in order to have a girl even be remotely interested in them. It's all wrong , all a mess. And then there are girls like yourself , and worse , trying to be "androgynous" , or "butch"..............all these are grave signs of the pointlessness , that lack of direction, of these vague times.
You , might , still condescend to see the beauty of some pretty-boys..................but you are still failing to see , and failing to comprehend , the true beauty of men , which is inside !!
You do , Sam , callously reject men.
And here's where we get to a real kicker , the real , awful , issue. You claim that you all feel "uncomfortable" in the arms of men.
Well . . . . . .get comfortable !
You say that you don't want to put yourselves through the "discomfort" of being with us ?
How do you think that makes us feel ?
That is an awful thing to say.
But that is the problem now.......'society' has been reduced down to only your very shallow sense of 'comfort'. In any other sphere , any other circumstance , a person would be told to step outside their comfort zone.
If a person was only "comfortable" with their own race , nationalty , "class"........we know what the response would be.
You , go on about only being 'comfortable' with your own gender.....and that's imagined as being a 'good' thing ? It's not !
Sam , contrary to modern myth....men are not the ogres you've been led to believe. Step outside your limited comfort zone.........and you'll truly realise that you can be , and are meant to be , perfectly comfortable with men , and in the arms of a man.
How "comfortable" do you think men are going to be with being thought of as so horrid , so discomforting ? Alright that men have to go on working hard , right , just as long as you don't have to be discomforted by any of them , huh ? Wrong , not good.
If you have , if any of you have , had bad experiences with A male , the please don't make us all suffer for it.
It's a good thing though , that all of your mothers were comfortable in the arms of a man.................but what , that was good enough for them , but not their vain daughters? That's not good at all , that is most discomforting , to say the very least.
How comfortable do you think that I , or any other man is with being thought of so poorly by you all , Sam ? We love you so much , and to think of you so callously disregarding us in favour of your own very smug "comfort" is just horrible.
And , you write about feeling awkward with the opposite sex ? Well , to a degree , that's natural !
All people feel that , you are not supposed to retreat into some biased "same sex" lifestyle about it.
That 'awkardness' leads to excitement.....discovery......growth.....fulfillment !
You feel awkard with males............well , grow up ! Speak with males.........think and feel about us. Male and Female are not only opposite either , we are complimentary.
You actually think that 'rectifying' your problem of feeling awkard with the opposite sex , is by detouring into a biased , blinkered , dead end , "same sex" "sex life"? You don't like awkward , but you don't mind sinful , perverted depravity ?
If all people only stuck to their own 'comfort' , like you are currently promoting Sam , then NOTHING would ever get done !
You (sarcastically?) say that I am , very , attracted to women because of my "penis and upbringing" ? What the heck ?! I am , very , attracted to women....because I am meant to be , I am created to be.....it's natural ! And , yes , my penis is part of that. And my upbringing is definitely in line with that.
Your vagina , Sam , does not tell you to be ""attracted"" to women.......and your upbringing most definitely had nothing like this involved in it. No , it is solely your ego , your vanity , your selish , indulgent , "comfort"....and your rampant narcisissm which "tells" you to do what you are doing.
And it's not good.
In this whole scenario , Sam. With whats going on......you are the "white" student" , and I am the black student , asking fro the eraser.
I do respect YOU as a human ! That is clearly evident. What you are up to though is NOT a part of your being human.....you are NOT an "incomprehensible" "3rd gender" because you egotistically have only become 'comfortable' with your own gender.
This only being "comfortable" with your own gender is that cause of , adds to , and provokes , this whole problem. This retreat into being "comfortable" with yourselves , does NOT 'rectify' any problem! Hardly ! . . . . . it only worsens the problem.
Each human deserves basic respect. And each human also has expectations upon them , and responsibility. And that does not involve , and is gravely crippled by , vain , narcisisstic egotists.....who feel "awkard" with their complimentary gender......and only feel ""comfortable"" with themselves.
Step out of your little comfort zone..........you'll realise , you'll remember , that we are actually made to be truly comfortable together !
Sincerely,
Skot.
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Post by Ada on Aug 31, 2008 1:56:52 GMT -5
Anyone who has seen my boyfriend knows that he's the god-damn-manliest looking guy around. Moustache and chinbeard manly. You don't need to be effeminate to get laid, Skot. You just need to be less of a stuck-up, narrow-minded, long-winded, arrogant asstwat.
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Post by Skot on Aug 31, 2008 3:52:49 GMT -5
Well , then very good for him , and you , Ada!
And I sincerely mean that. Bless you both.
However.
I do not want to , only , get laid. I'm talking about a whole lot here.
And I am not stuck up , or arrogant..............the "comfortable" , selfish , biased , elitist , irresponsible , removed , detached , obnoxious , dismissive , supremacist , vain choice of "same sex" 'lifestyles' is what is stuck up and arrogant !
I am not narrow-minded...........the ignorant , blinkered , 'comfortable' , lop-sided , unbalanced , biased , close-minded , obtuse choice of "same sex" 'lifestyles' is narrow minded!
I may be a little "long winded" , I will grant you that , but that's because there is a lot to say........and in my defence , if you will , I say it well , with full wind in my sails.
I don't know about the "asstwat" part though.........who is that most supposed to offend? It sounds like it more describes the ""ladyboys"" of Thailand.
Now , that is good about your boyfriend , thank God you are a young woman who likes facial hair. And moustaches and beards are great and it's sad they are often unappreciated. I mean come on , they are natural. I like to let my stubble , and moustache and beard grow out from time to time.
However , facial hair does not entirely make the man. Don't forget there has beena lot of ""macho"" "gays" who grow some pretty impressive facial hair. A beard and moustache don't always make the man , like men's clothes , short hair and a "tough" pose do not make a ""butch lesbian"" into a man.
Facial hair , yes good...............but don't forget , the essence of a man is the soul and integrity which comes from within.
A man doesn't need to be described as manly.......he is a man , that will convey everything which that encompasses.
It's great that you appreciate your boyfriend , Ada. But my point is not only for me , and maybe any other lucky guys , to get laid. The point of what is going on , the "lesbianism" , is the problem! To whatever degree it goes on. These girls , all of them , must stop this arrogant , stuck up , garbage. There are so many good men around.................none of these girls has the right to reject men in favour of a casual , superficial , indulgent , wasteful , self absorbed "lifestyle".
Do you think me to be so cavalier , so shallow , that if I was to be able to "get laid" , I would give up this struggle ? , turn my back on what is right ? , leave all my other brothers in the lurch ?
If so , you're wrong.
All of these girls are supposed to be with a guy. No-one is 'allowed' to get away with an insult like this.
Yes , I want get laid......I so passionately want to , need to , get laid. And to love. To live. To care , and laugh , and touch , and talk , and have sex , and hug and give. To love , and to make love.
But I am NOT going to be made to feel thankful if , by some miracle, I get "laid" , and everything else..............and have to shut up while all these girls just keep to themselves , being all "comfortable" together , "laying" each other. I will not have consider myself "lucky" if i get a girl , and breathe a sigh of relief that i could get a girl , while all those other girls ""get"" each other , and say 'to heck' to all the other guys in the process , you know...."at least I got mine".
No way.
How weak and unscrupulous do you mistake me for?
I am none of those things that you called me. In fact all those insults fit what all these self absorbed types are up to now.
I am a man.
Women and Men are meant for each other.
That's it.
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Post by den on Aug 31, 2008 20:58:43 GMT -5
It's quite funny how you think lesbians get girlfriends just to spite guys. Like everyone else in this world, they're entitled to whoever they choose to be with.
Men and women may be made for each other, but so what? Apparently you still don't get the fact that the above statement contains as much arrogance and vanity which you made us out to be in the very first place, however factual it may sound.
And don't worry, you're right. You are never going to get laid. And seriously I didn't even think you came here to get laid in the first place, because you never can.
Neither do you get the fact that we here are talking about our own lifestyle and how we communicate or interact with each other. If you want to 'out-sarcasm' us, be my guest. You can't even out-talk us in this aspect already. What you're saying here is total crap and trust me, it's failing quite badly.
Get comfortable? It's our choice, you can choose the opposite pussy for all we care, but we decided otherwise. Even when 'men and women are made for each other', are we supposed to refute that fact and tell you that you shouldn't even date because you don't have that right of choice? Like what I said, I don't really give a shit about who's made for who. I don't want to live my life bound by such regulations and rules. Don't start with saying such a choice is 'arrogant', 'selfish', or 'vain'. Do you think I'm going to change who I am because of some nobody who came strutting in here with his own warped theories of humanity?
You can post in as many blogs as you want, you can continue to be an irritating prick pretending to be the world's new age savior, but you'll never ever change who we want to be, who we are. Those that might be swayed just shows that they are weak-hearted and afraid, but we are strong and we have friends who are there for us, straight or not. That's something you will never ever comprehend.
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Post by Skot on Aug 31, 2008 22:19:34 GMT -5
It's never not shocking den , or staggering , how superficial someone will get , in order to 'defend' a superficial 'lifestyle' !
And , how sad.........just , so sad , that because of vain , jaded , selfish 'urges' , people will whittle life down to a most grossly superficial fraction of what it could , and should , be.
At least you do realise that men and women are made for each other............and that is patently evident at every level of existence and creation.
From the emotional to the physical.
The spiritual to the material.
You acknowledge that there are inherent rules in life and in the world............but you choose to break them , you are (all) deliberate , and very conceited , in your breaking of rules and regulations.
These rules are there for a very good reason , and human beings have always known this. These regulations are there to do precisely that , to regulate human behaviour.
Funny though , that you attempt to replace real , proper , rules and regulations , with a corrupt 'scene' which actually has it's own mutated , and very , very strict , fabricated "rules and regulations"..............."same sex" ! "seeks same"! "no men allowed"! "no women allowed".
The "gay" scene is a horribly dehumanised deformity , with very awful "rules". "rules" put in place in an effort to override guilt and conscience.
Your elevation of "choice" to a position above all else is obscene. Just because people choose something never automatically makes it right. A choice is never a reason , nor even an excuse.
'Choice' never can never overwhelm responsibility.
Sad to , that you all have to always bring this down to insults about anyone who is not 'down' with the "gay" party........or about my not being able to get a girlfriend.
You , all , actually always state why your choice is so bad , yet then make the mistake of boasting about , and rubbing in , the awful affects as though it's an achievement!
That's not good!
You ALL already changed to this behaviour , because you are weak hearted................you ALL have already been swayed by ego , vanity , wealth , fashion and conceit to make this "choice" because you are weak hearted.
You are not strong...............reducing life to only your own selfish "comfort" does not make you strong.
And there is so much you are (wilfully?) failing to comprehend!
With a strong , yet tender , heart, Skot....
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Post by den on Sept 1, 2008 0:14:38 GMT -5
I don't see the need to defend anything, because nothing is wrong here. Except for the fact that you're here of course.
I'm not insulting anyone here, I'm merely stating facts, as you do.
Well, since you say we're 'swayed into this lifestyle', we don't see the need to be swayed back.
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Post by Skot on Sept 1, 2008 0:39:20 GMT -5
No , you are , trying, to 'defend' what you are doing.
And what you are doing is , obviously , wrong.
People doing wrong are always ready to leap up with 'defences' , and 'excuses, and 'reasons' by which they hope to rationalise their , indefencibly , wrong behaviour.
A shoplifter is always ready with a 'defence' , and 'excuse' , by which to 'rationalise' their act.
What you are doing is wrong. You know it's wrong............and your entire 'defence' revolves around how wrong it is ! 'It's wrong....but it's our choice.......', 'we know it's wrong , but......', ' who are you to judge.........',' we don't have to abide by rules and regulations..........'
You state facts. Yes. So what. You state what you do. As a boast , while it's actually an incrimination. Stating a fact isn't the accomplishment.
I state facts based upon absolute truth. I state facts with a genuine grounding. I state facts with a clear , positive , righteous and productive purpose in sight.
"homosexuality" and "lesbianism" is ALWAYS an insult.
If you really don't see the need to be swayed , then you are truly blinded! Just because someone doesn't see the need to be swayed does not mean they don't need to be. Plenty of drug addicts "don't see" the need to be swayed back from their destructive ways. I'm sure , that with all your talk about shopping , partying , drugs and "c**k sucking" you don't yet "see the need" to be swayed.
You were the one who boastfully said you , all , 'wouldn't be swayed'.......thus proving that you know you are on a dangerous path that can be swayed from.
The failure to see the road sign does not mean it isn't there. The failure to hear the warning siren does not mean it isn't screaming.
And the oncoming traffic is truly dangerous.
Don't take my being here as "wrong". Take it as a blessing , as a word of warning , as a helping hand. Because it is. As an alarm , a stop sign , a road map back to the right direction. Because it is.
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